Fire in the Water, Earth in the Air: Legends
of West Texas Music
"Indeed, Oglesby's introduction of more
than two dozen musicians who called Lubbock home should be required
reading not only for music fans, but for Lubbock residents and
anyone thinking about moving here. On these pages, music becomes
a part of Lubbock's living history."
Chris: This was back in Lubbock?
PB: No. Im in Austin now. As a musician, Lubbock had gotten a little bit too easy; I felt unchallenged. Then it dawned on me - I had been saying that I was on the way to Austin for nine years! I had been in Lubbock from 71 until 80.
The Joe Ely Band had kicked some
serious booty for a number of years, and it gave me the credibility
to continue. I feel like taking that chance is now being repaid.
Chris: Tell me about those days back when you were playing with The Supernatural Family Band.
PB: Put me down on the list that it was a GRAND idea. The Supernatural Family Band was more than a band, yknow. It was our own little "Ken Keseys Merry Pranksters." They were out in northern New Mexico living in teepees, and then they moved to Colorado.
Chris: They had a big following there in Colorado?
PB: I got a short list of band leaders that are real successful, and Tommy Hancocks right up there. Hes great on keeping business going; Its a real hard thing to make a band actually pay your bills, and Tommys done it for a long time.
Chris: Do you have any great observations about Lubbock? Or great stories about things that happened in Lubbock?
PB: After I began to make these interesting observations
to myself, one of the first things I noticed was Lubbock. Lubbock
is a wonderful place to live, once you begin to notice the special
things about it. As a guy who was traveling all over the United
States and Europe, and then comin back - And in his time
off hes riding his bicycle around Lubbock - its real
I guess Im starting to take this "Devils Advocate" position now - toward people saying, "Well, that would be the same anywhere else." But, the fact that everybody in the band is from Lubbock; everybody writing about us is from Lubbock like Michael Ventura A lot of people who werent from originally Lubbock immediately noticed it once they got there. Michael is one of them, I imagine; He wasn't originally from Lubbock but hes one of those who immediately noticed, "Whoa! This is way-cool!"
I remember for instance, when we had Linda Ronstadt hanging out in Lubbock with us. And when we had The Clash hanging out in Lubbock with us. I mean, give me a break! The Clash didnt hang out anywhere else - I dont think - on their whole American tour that was any more bizarre, any more full of coincidences and crazy stuff. That gig at the Rox The place was packed! I mean, The Clash at the time wasnt playing any towns anywhere near that small. It was a great night, Man!
And Stubb was with us all the time. Anybody who came to town, we always took em to Stubbs. I mean, Stubb would always be at our shows. And one thing he liked to do was produce concerts. He produced some great ones At his old venue there, the old Stubbs on East Broadway, he brought Stevie Ray Vaughn in there a lot. Stubb was also booking The Cotton Club Ill never forget the night that Muddy Waters played The Cotton Club. It just doesnt get any better than that!
The other thing he liked to do was have The Joe Ely Band all come over on a Sunday when he was not busy, about three in the afternoon, and "have dinner with him," he called it. What was interesting to me was thered be no barbecue there. Hed cook spaghetti and meatballs, or hed cook fried chicken something different from what he had in his place - which we were all like addicted to like a drug - Stubbs barbecue.
Stubbs barbecue was the last meat I ate. I became a vegetarian traveling around with Joe so much; in a lot of strange places that we were staying, it was better if I ate salads and fish. So Id go back to Lubbock First thing Id do is go to Stubbs and get me a big ol plate. I could go back in the kitchen and fix it myself. So one time, I had been off with Joe for about two months, and I hadnt had any meat that whole time; I went out to Stubbs and afterwards I decided, "Well, Im a vegetarian now, I guess." Ive been one ever since, 20-some-odd years.
Chris: So your last indulgence was Stubbs?
Stubb is a good argument that Lubbock has produced totally
unique characters; I
mean! What a unique character! Did you see Stubb
on the Letterman Show that night? Of course, Lettermans
famous at that point in his career for these interviews with
people where theres a demonstration, especially cooking.
He was totally, totally "The Real Deal;" You know
what I mean? Everybody that knew im, loved im.
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