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Fire in the Water, Earth in the Air: Legends of West Texas Music
by Christopher Oglesby
Published by the University of Texas Press:
"As a whole, the interviews create a portrait not only of Lubbock's musicians and artists, but also of the musical community that has sustained them, including venues such as the legendary Cotton Club and the original Stubb's Barbecue. This kaleidoscopic portrait of the West Texas music scene gets to the heart of what it takes to create art in an isolated, often inhospitable environment. As Oglesby says, "Necessity is the mother of creation. Lubbock needed beauty, poetry, humor, and it needed to get up and shake its communal ass a bit or go mad from loneliness and boredom; so Lubbock created the amazing likes of Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Butch Hancock, Terry Allen, and Joe Ely."

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"Indeed, Oglesby's introduction of more than two dozen musicians who called Lubbock home should be required reading not only for music fans, but for Lubbock residents and anyone thinking about moving here. On these pages, music becomes a part of Lubbock's living history."
- William Kerns, Lubbock Avalanche Journal

From: Paul Bullock
To: chris;
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 3:54 PM

Tommy and Chris
I went to see a friend today who owns a diesel repair shop and the shop is on the land that used to be the Original Cotton Club. His name is Jerry Severe. I grew up with his family. Jerry told me that they are finding stuff from what appears to be the place where they dumped the trash. some old bottles and stuff have been pushed back to the surface.
Jerry would like to perhaps try to rebuild the club on the original spot and he needs pictures and information. Jerry is also a friend of Jack Burk and he is a good guy. I think he is sincere about reconstruction and said he has some people interested in investing. Jerry's work # is 806 745-3455. home 794-9388.
Any help you can lend would be greatly appreciated.


From: Jamie Howell
Sent: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 4:54 PM

You missed me. I came to Lubbock in the 6th grade from Brazil, played guitar with Jimmie Gilmore’s first band, was likely the first Lubbock hippie, went to California as the lead guitar player with Angela Strehli’s band in 1967, was a close friend of Tony Pearson, Butch Hancock, and Jo Carol Pierce, produced Terry Allen’s first album (Juarez Device), and am Jo Harvey Allen’s cousin. But I married a girl from Santa Barbara and after a long career in Music, I now sell houses to rich folk. Oh, well. I also organized the first student demonstration at Tech and was a founding member of SDS in Austin.

Jamie Howell

From: Lynne Kelley
Subject: Lubbockite from 68-70
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 4:51 PM

I went to Tech in 68, 69, and 70. It was really hip then! I moved to Austin in 72' with my then husband Don Bennett, who played with Jimmie Vaughan in Storm, and now for 30 years, Marcia Ball. When I looked at your pics, I became nostalgic! I remember, the Salt n' Pepper club, the Student Union building, Tech, of course, Broadway, Speedy Perez' record store, Heap Big Beef on 50th, and The Hole in the Wall clothing Store on University where I worked! Is it still there? I still love the Red Raiders and the Raider horse! What about MacKenzie Park where we had Gentle Sundays? Do you know Tom Jones from there? How to get in touch with him? I know Joe Ely and Ponty very well. My daughter Christa was in 4th grade class with Joes' daughter Elena Marie. We hung out before I had my family. I saw Lloyd play at Soap Creek with Joe many times, the Rollingwood location. We danced ourselves soaking wet!
If you want to see more about me, look at
www.myspace.com/lynnarenae Maybe you'll remember me.
Love and peace,
P.S. Oh yeah,
Randy Banks, Tanner, John Staton, Terry, and Vince Hopkins...Street Theater, did you know them?

From: Stewart Cheak
Subject: Help Please
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:19 AM

I was born in Slaton and lived in Lubbock for a while. I knew a few guys who were local players back in the 80's but lost touch after moving away. Could you let me know if they still ply around the Lubbock area and how I could contact them? One mans name is Joey Bird, he played Bass and Sax for Armadillo Flats. The other is Jerry Jefferson, he had a band called The Jerry Jeff Jam Band and also played with Vince Hopkins in the band Street Theater.
I got to know those guys through my Dad. Joey and Armadillo Flats billed themselves as "The National Band of Texas." Other members of that group were
Gallen Good, Jack Bowden, and Cecil White. I think they won a Battle of the Bands contest in Lubbock. They played country music similar to The Maines Brothers and I think they even played a few gigs with them.
Jerry Jefferson also had a band called
Full Force, a Texas Boogie Band. They were more rockin, and Jerry played lead guitar and sang while Pete was on drums and Chris played Bass and sang.
I really enjoy reading the
stories on your site. It brings back a lot of good memories. Like a night I spent at the Cotton Club watching Alvin Crow and his Pleasant Valley Boys play and Joe Ely playing the same night. After the show was over and because Joey Bird knew Joe Ely and members of his band I got to shoot a game of pool with him.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Stewart Cheak

[Note: I am not familiar with these folks and bands, so I was not able to help Stewart. If anyone out there knows about these musicians, e-mail me and I will pass the information on to Stewart and post it here on virtualubbock.com. - Chris Oglesby]

Subject: Former Lubbockite/Changes Over the Years
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 9:37 AM
From: Dan Atcheson

Hi folks.

I was born and reared in Lubbock, TX. I moved to Venice, FL, in 1990. I've had an interesting life, to say the least. I'm the most famous person in his profession with over 51,000 books in print.
Go to
http://www.bullybaby.com/dan_author.htm to see my story.

By the way, my younger brother, Tim, gave Joey (Joe) Ely his first guitar lesson. We had a band called the Velveteens that was later changed to the Traveling Salesmen. I also knew Don Caldwell.

Also, one of the members of our rock band in the 60's sent me this link:
Click "Play Sample" for the song, "Days of My Years." I was playing bass in the song. I'm grateful this song is being re-released. This helps give our band (The Traveling Salesmen) a place in Rock-'n-Roll history. Or, if you have Music Match, you can hear the entire song by opening the attachment.

We were a famous Lubbock band. It's just that we never made it big in the world. We got close with a release on RCA Victor, but they dropped the ball on the distribution. The song had a five-star rating in Billboard, and there was an article that appeared in the AJ that came out of NY City. It mentioned us, along with the Stones and a few other groups to watch. My older brother Mike once said, "It's probably a blessing we didn't get there; half of us would probably already be dead by now." I think he was right. But I did find fame in another area. [as a book author] Also, I'm proud to boast owning one of the most famous dogs in the world. You see this story at http://www.bullybaby.com/famous_baby.htm

I love and miss Lubbock, but my move to FL changed my life and I wouldn't change the experience for anything. As you can see, I saved the old Velveteen drum head. I think the old image was taken in 1966. I've changed a bit in the last 40 years. LOL I suppose we all have. After the chances I have taken during my life, I'm just grateful to still be here. I played music part-time, but professionally for 23 years--too long. Now, you'd have to drag me into a dark nightclub. And on New Year's Eve, I love to stay at home, safe from drunk drivers. But I'm not a girly guy. LOL If I can ever afford one, I'm going to buy what I think is called a gyrocopter and learn how to fly it. Also, if given the opportunity, I'd make another 174-foot dive into Warm Mineral Springs in a heartbeat.

Please say "hi" to Dee Purkeypile. He played piano in the Traveling Salesman band, at one time. Dee was a health food and vitamin nut, and knew a lot about nutrition. But one day, one of our vehicles broke down in New Mexico, so four of the guys piled into the back of my pickup and we hauled to Texas. When we got there, everyone was in good shape, except for Dee. We thought he was dying on us. LOL

Dan Atcheson
Our home page:
Or 50's Rock-'n-Roll page: http://www.bullybaby.com/babysrocknroll50s.htm

Date: 8/17/2006 3:59 AM CDT
From: Mickey Burchfield
I know this is all about Lubbock, but, I just could'nt help it....I'm an artist from Spade, which is pretty damn close. I even remember, bigger than dallas, which became cold water country, and lord knows what else. Drink or drownd night, when it was 75 cents for lonestar longknecks and the same for a shot of tequilia. Man, they had the best sound system in Lubbock and probably all of West Texas.
Out here in Spade,,,,,,,my dear mom actually beat Waylon out in a talent contest way back in the 50's,,,,,when his first wife,Maxine Lawerence went to school at Spade. My grandmother was an artist,which is probably where i got it. My aunt shows her work on a site called, garden of praise...Mother said that they used to have talent contest out at Spade High School a lot back then. Her mainden name is Willie Griffin. Her and three of her girlfriends from school did their own rendition of "Blue Skirt Waltz" with her on piano. Ol Waylon ended up taking second place back in 1954 or 55. She graduated in 55. I thought it was kind of cool to know. I really enjoy your web site and all the great history of the artists and musicians of Lubbock and this area. Take care. Mickey Burchfield
Mickey Burchfield
Spade,Tx. 79369

Subject: Big hello from Glasgow, Scotland
Date: 7/14/2006 5:50 AM Central Daylight Time
From: Peter Carroll

I seen your link on www.buddyholly.com and just wanted to say hi, especially after reading the interview with Lloyd Maines, in particular, the impact Buddy Holly & The Crickets have had on the music modern world, especially here in the UK. Without the music of Buddy Holly & The Crickets and the crucial tour in 1958, musically, the UK would be stuck in a timewarp.
I'm a contemporary songwriter, guitarist and aspiring Producer here in Glasgow, Scotland and have been seriously influenced by Buddy's/Crickets music, and still am, to the extent that I'm currently putting together an albums worth of material of Buddys' & The Crickets' songs, as a personal hmage to my heroes and maybe I can get a younger audience into the music to keep it alive.
Buddy Holly & The Crickets changed my life 21 years ago, when I first really go into the music after watching historically innacurate film, The Buddy Holly Story back in 1985 when I was just a lad at 19 years of age - this film put me onto the real songs and I've had a wonderful 21 years musically.
I now concentrate on writing, composing, recording and producing my own material and producing local unsigned artists here in Glasgow. Without Buddy and the guys, I wouldn't have learned to play the guitar, been in umpteen bands for 10 years, had recording studio experience with those bands, gone to college to study Sound Engineering (1 yr course) then Music Technology (1yr course), learned how to write songs and compose music (for songs and instrumentals), learn to produce, got into other genres of music and meet some talented people along the way
Buddy Holly and The Crickets, and of course, Lubbock, are very much ingrained in my heart and soul and for that, I want to thank you.

As well as concentrating on the Holly/crickets material and my own songs, I'm also an aspiring Producer looking to work with US Singer/Songwriters (who play guitar/piano) and have existing demo's of their songs. I'm currently working with Pam Messick (see http://www.petercarroll.biz/petercarroll_producer.htm), a New York state based songwriter and producing her demo's, getting them ready for her to send off to Publishers in New York, Nashville and pretty much country wide. I'm adding additional instrumentation to her guitar/vocal demo, so that it is fully complimented as though it were a band on the tracks, as opposed to just acoustic guitar & vocals.

I want to give something back to Lubbock, as you know has a very special place in my heart and has been good to me and hopefully I can help some up and coming singer/songwriters in Lubbock and produce their demo's for them for free, before they send them out to Record/Publishing Co's.

Best wishes
Glasgow, Scotland

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 8:50 AM
FROM: Peter Carroll

Hi Chris,
Hope all is well in Lubbock and hope
the book is doing great !?
Just thought I'd drop you a line to mention that I'm featured on
http://www.radiooneoldies.com/ as Artist of the Month, which is great Publicity for me and adds to my conviction that the music has still got mass appeal and folk out there love it.......the feedback I've had for The Crickets Sound Project on my space is fantastic, even from younger fans......some in their 20's.........

Recording continues
Best rgds

Subject: David Box to be inducted to Buddy Holly Walk of Fame
Date: 5/29/2006 8:21 AM CDT
From: Jay Reichard

I wanted to pass on to you that David Box will finally be inducted to the Walk of Fame after a long battle with the powers that be in Lubbock. I remain convinced that we would all be listening to a lot of David Box music still if he had survived. I heard from Rita Peek, David's sister, that his induction is scheduled for September 16, 2006. Wonderful news!

Take care and thanks again!

Best always,
--Jay Reichard

Subject: Stubbs Audio Cookbook Cassette
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 5:43:46 PM EST
From: Rob Pearlman

Hi! I worked for Stubbs in Austin from 1983 to 1986…at Antone’s and helped him open his first place (after that) on I-35. I became great friends with him and of course have LOTS of stories about him that I would love to share with you.
BUT I also have
a cool document that I created (attached). You may be aware that when Stubbs first started marketing his sauce (In Jack Daniel’s bottles…labels steamed off and his put on) out of his house, he included his Stubb’s Audio Cookbook Cassette, featuring Jesse Taylor on guitar and Stubbs talking about BBQ and how to make it. Well, at one point a while back I had too much time on my hands and decided to transliterate the whole thing. I listened carefully and typed every word or sound he uttered as I heard it. I have so much fun reading it to this day that I thought it might be something you could share with your readers!

It has occurred to me more than once, especially after reading the words, that this is not just a cook book but a guide to life. I mean, you could apply any of the following quotes to your own existence:

  • “try not to get your fire out of order”
  • “It’s important to have everything you need right where you got it”
  • “you have to have feelings for what you doin’”

I could go on, but it’s more fun to search yourself! In fact, the whole thing could be symbolic of life for all I know.

Rob Pearlman
Smart Planet/ MM Global Brands


Subject: Joey Ely
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:44:06 PM EST
From: J. David Stephenson

Our "scooter" gang was called The Outlaws. Joe owned a Mo-ped, me a Vespa, others had the esteemed Cushman, the Cadillac of the brigade; thus, was our introduction into a unique culture that was cut from the cloth of a Steinbeck dust bowl novel. Lubbock was as close to being a little Chicago in that the gangsters of the 20's and 30's would have felt at home in our "get-it-while-you-can" existence.

My dad was the minister of the
Broadway Church of Christ and the parsonage was located at 3210 27th Street. I initially attended Lubbock Christian School, but when I came home in the afternoons I would see a group of carefree individuals gathering on my block and I so wanted to become a part of this sociological experiment of adolescent individualization. Jon Igo lived on this block, the Horn brothers were only a few blocks away and our neighbor across the street was Pam Strong. The Atchison brothers, who were musically inclined during that era, lived on 26th, Joe lived in a house with his mother and brother Tim on 28th and Boston and Hutchinson Jr. High was the school we were all zoned for. After my 8th grade year at LCS I persuaded my parents to let me attend Hutchinson in order to play football and it was in this setting I met the first people that would introduce me into the "live fast and die young with a good looking corpse" genre.

This was the beginning of my introduction into being around people who liked you for who you were and appearances be damned. The honesty of their lifestyle began to mold me into who I would become no matter how incongruent this was from my parents wishes. Guys had nicknames like Fuzzy and Pee Wee and the adjectives and adverbs of our vocabulary consisted of varies terms of endearment such as motherfucker, cocksucker, shithead, etc. thus creating a bond between the men of the 9th grade prior to our becoming 10th graders at Monterey .

We partied at Buffalo Lake and sometimes borrowed one of many "week-end cottages" at the lake where conveniently a keg of beer might be found. We once borrowed a keg by slicing the plastic line that connected the keg to the spigot only to bring it to a cotton field finding out the difficulty of trying to suck out the beer that was held in an impenetrable vacuum (Joe was a part of this foray and my dad's '58 Ford was our mode of transportation.) There was also the time a grocery store "Green Stamp" sign was mysteriously placed on the property of Broadway church of Christ advertising that one could Green Stamps were available there which did not appear to be humorous to the church elders.

Our merry band of eclectic hell raisers rode our disparate two-wheelers on ventures of conquests that would rival the crusades.
Lance Copeland and Joey shared a common loss and that was of losing their fathers at the beginning of their adolescence. Lance became a true outlaw in every sense of the word and Joe began to exercise his artistic gifts. He had a draftsman easel in his bedroom where his early drawings were more of hot rods and cars than of the expressionistic art he developed over the years. Mid-way in our 10th grade year at Monterey our family moved to Ft. Worth because the elders of my church believed my chosen habits of drink, cigarettes and experimentation with the wiles of the women of Lubbock were detrimental to the agenda of their coveted church society. Therefore, I was not privy to Joe's development into the music world. In that I was unable to conform to the religious world of my parental units, it was deemed prudent to join the military on the day I turned 17. This decision was reinforced by my fathers eagerness to sign the documents necessary for me to begin my military experience.

I did keep in touch with mutual acquaintances in Lubbock to hear of Joe's adventures in the circus through the years and would have much rather experienced "riding the rails" with Joe than my two year vacation in the country of Vietnam.

I now live in Franklin, TN and will see Joe from time to time when he performs in the Nashville area. The years have changed us and the commonality we once knew as 13, 14 & 15 year olds has faded into the past, but I am proud of this self-made man and wish him many years of contentment as he continues to travel the many roads of self-discovery and increased spirituality.

J. David Stephenson
Franklin, TN

Subject: Education of Shelby Knox
Date: 6/22/2005 6:19:01 PM EDT
From: Cari Weinberg

Last night while watching "The Education of Shelby Knox" on PBS I saw your name scroll by in the “thank yous” section of the credits and I thought, “hey, that’s the Virtualubbock guy!” It’s a great piece, I enjoyed it a lot and it reminded me of all of the things that I miss and don’t miss in the fair Hub City.

Maybe it’s all those hours I spent playing records at KTXT while I was going to Tech, maybe it was all of the live bands that I went to go see while I was in school—who knows—but last year I learned to play an old 60’s keyboard and joined an all-girl rock band.

Please stop by and check us out www.myspace.com/lovie If we ever go on tour and include Lubbock in our plans (it would give us another chance to play with the Thrift Store Cowboys!) I’ll let you know.

Cari Weinberg

Subject: Terrific Site
Date: 4/26/2005 5:10:54 PM EDT
From: M.H. Hill
Attachment: Poetry.rtf
Just wanted to drop by and tell you how much I've enjoyed your website. I'm an expatriated West Texan presently living in Georgia, courtesy of my recently abandoned career. I was introduced to your site by my sister, who was kind enough to forward a link to your interview with
Bruce Jaggers. I graduated from Abernathy High School in 1978, and Tech in 1983, and spent countless afternoons and nights at the Dawg, not to mention the numerous other watering holes in Lubbock at that time. Memories came flooding back as I read the interview, causing me to look west for a couple of days afterward, pining for all things Lubbock.

Strangely enough, I had to move clear across the country before having the opportunity to live in the same neighborhood with a fellow Tech alum. Imagine the odds. She attended Tech about the same time I did, so we naturally drift back to Lubbock whenever we get together, talking about old days and the vibrant nightlife/music scene that existed in the Hub City. Recently, over the course of several martinis, I gave her my personal assessment of some of the more popular/colorful establishments from that era and thought I would share them with you:
<Go to "Letter & Poetry by M.H. Hill">


P.S. I've attached a
collection of my work that I'm attempting to build on...hope you enjoy.

Subject: New Link
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 4:05:55 AM EST
From: David Hamilton

Hi Chris,
David Hamilton here. I played bass with Jesse Taylor and Tornado Alley back in Lubbock in the early 80's and also played bass for Jay Boy Adams, which was how I moved to Lubbock from Abilene. It would be nice if I could get back in contact with some old friends through your site.
I want to pass on a link for you to post on Virtualubbock; it's the site for my entertainment lighting design business.The address is:
www.songliter.com Have a look....
Well done, and thanks again,
David Hamilton

Subject: Maybe Eddie Dixon...
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 2:55 PM EST
From: Dale Somers

I love your virtualubbock site. Maybe consider adding Eddie Dixon to your list.
He is a sculptor that is kind of a hidden jewel here in Lubbock. They have had Eddie Dixon Day in both Washington DC and New York. He is currently sculpting the
Willie McCool statue that will be placed near the veterans memorial.
Take a look at his awards on this web site:

Dale Somers

Subject: Sendin' ya some info to be included
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:36:13 AM EST
From: heather hollingsworth

Great website! I also hail from Lubbock and crisscrossed with some of the ol' gang(s). I did a great deal of theatre in the late 70's there before I moved out into the big ol' carnivorous world. I'm sure ol' Bill Kerns still remembers. He was a great fan (as a rule--there was one Hayloft Theater mishap).

I am back in the Austin area after living in the area of theatre & academia: acting, directing, dialect coaching, teaching and the like. My latest gig was dialect coaching William Hurt on his film this summer here in Austin.

I got the lubbock sunsets in my soul and the cottonfields in my blood (and some probably still on my ass if ya wanna know). I guess what I am tryin' to convey without much humility a'tall, (I wouldn't be an alpha-Leo actress if I didn't) . . . the virtualubbock site just wouldn't be complete without--me.

There was somethin' about being raised in lubbock in the 50's and 60's?? Somethin' about that atmospheric phenomenon of those Lubbock lights? No offense to the talented generations to come, there continue to be many, but those coupla' generations right around there, it's undeniable: in all fields of the arts, a plethora of gifted, driven, searching folks with a unprecedented yearning.

I notice you have lots of musicians and a few theatre/film folks but my generation produced a majorly successful crop of actors. I won't steal the spotlight so I am going to mention other successful Lubbock performing artists whom are loved ones of mine:

Conan McCarty -- Law & Order, Stuart Little II
Brad Leland -- most recently Friday Night Lights
Freda Williams -- Dr. T and the Women (Freda is married to Brad Leland)
Matt Posey -- The Life of David Gale, Lonesome Dove
Lynn Mathis (posthumous) -- The Alamo
Mark Walters -- American Outlaws, A Texas Funeral
Suzanne Smith -- Law & Order, & most notably the lead on 42nd street on Broadway some decades ago

Gosh, there's
GW Bailey and Larry Randolph. I'll stop now. But they all should at least me mentioned because they all are a part of us.
thanks chris,

Heather Hollingsworth

Subject: Appreciate your site
Date: Thur, 2 Dec 2004 12:24:00 PM EST
From: Bob Williford

You have drawn a pretty good verbal expression of our hometown. I, too, grew up in Lubbock and graduated from MHS in 67. Although I have not been back but a few times since I left in December of 69, Lubbock is still home, dust storms and all.

I am a Baptist preacher and lived in Peru for 13 years as a missionary and have discovered that the truth of faith that I found in Lubbock is just as true in Latin America. The crazy thing is that I live in Hope, Arkansas now and in the shadow of Bill Clinton´s birthplace. People in this town are the same as West Texas.....

Without guessing you know that I still cling to that Hellfire and Damnation kind of preaching because I have read the Book front to back many times and all of it seems to fit together real good. This is a matter of faith.

Yes, Lubbock is a black and white kind of place, but the rest of the world is just like that, too.

Have a great day
Bob Williford
Jesus said, "Follow me."
Subject: Lubbock and its Music
Date: 4/15/2004; 8:50:17 PM Central Daylight Time
From: "Marianne and Stan Smith"

I've just finished going through the features in the web sight and re-living many old memories of those days when the music was fresh and original.

Truly all of the ideas and styles of that time were original and pioneered much of the roots of the Lubbock sound.

I played guitar back in those days, and I really had few people to listen to that were from that area. We all seemed to be doing our own thing, and had little time to listen to each other that much. I guess my biggest influences were Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, and Clyde Perkins (worked at Harrod Music, on avenue Q). I liked Buddy's rich chordal solos, Chuck's uncanny string bending techniques, and Clyde, well, he taught me how to use the right fingerings and how to feel the music when I played it.

Music was my life. I ate, drank, and lived it. My idea of a great time was to strap on my Strat and go play somewhere.

Those were wonderful times for me and you have helped me to remember some of them. Keep up the good work and don't stop searching. There is much more out there and the history of "That Sound" needs to be told.

Thanks again
Stan Smith
"The Sparkles"

Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:01:25 AM EST

I have just now discovered this site which I think is very cool. However, I do feel a little left out of the picture. I had lived in Lubbock Texas for 14 years1976 - 89.
I even lived in Lubbock back in 1968 or 69 played in a club there with a group called
the Vicounts. My son was born there, I meet my wife in Lubbock. I was a big part of the music family in Lubbock. To make this short just go to my web site and read all about it.
Us drummers always get left out. I am originally from Pampa Tx. I have played drums for
Jay Boy Adams, and recorded with him. Played drums on tour with Jimmie Dale Gilmore, Butch Hancock, Joe Ely, The Liquidators (x-Planet members ). Played at the original Stubbs Bar B Q, West Texas Opry, Fat Dawgs, etc,...etc...recorded with a played live with Jessie Guitar Taylor, Wally Moyers, Lloyd Maines, Don Caldwell Studios, so on and so on...I now live in Nashville, TN. Thanks for your time I hope I make the cut..
Again Check out my site

Danny Darling

Subject: Downe Burns interview
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:38 EST
I'm Phil (http://homepage.mac.com/macdoc1) and I am emailing you from Ontario, Canada - I live in a small city called Peterborough. which seems to share similar values to Lubbock. My first computer was a Texas Instruments 99/4A which was manufactured in Lubbock. The Peterborough area is a tremendous artist & musician's colony and hosts one of Ontario's biggest annual art shows, the "Buckhorn Wildlife and Art Festival".

I discovered & enjoyed your Downe Burns interview on the Virtualubbock website. Downe comes across as a straight up type of person in your interview - I'm glad that he hung in there and stuck to what he believed in. I admire his attitude.

I have just been introduced to Downe's south western style of artwork which was displayed in a local restaurant that we recently visited. That led my wife and I to track down and purchase a print of the Three Amigos for our home from Taos Design, a small shop in Toronto.

Yours truly,
Phil Townsend
(retired teacher)

Subject: Billy Walker
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:15 EST
I believe Billy Walker should be added to famous artists from the Lubbock area. He was born in Ralls and lived in Morton & other area towns growing up. He has been a member of the Grand Ol' Opry for more than 40 years. He has charted many country hits including "Charlie's Shoes" and "Cross the Brazos at Waco".
He was the first person to cut a Willie Nelson composition, "Funny how time slips away" He has appeared in person with such legends as Hank Williams (senior) Patsy Cline, and Elvis Presley. Billy Walker is the most underlooked talent from this area, although he is well known worldwide. I have submitted his name to Civic Lubbock to be selected to the Buddy Holly Walk of Fame. I have all sorts of bio info on Billy or you can search the web. After reading his credentials, maybe you might help me in getting Billy selected to the Holly Walk of Fame.

Larry Byers

Billy Walker Home Page

Grand Ol' Opry Bio of Billy Walker
CMT Biography: Billy Walker

Subject: Magic Dust
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 7:40 EST

I've been groovin' on your website for a while, and I'm a fan. I live in Shanghai, China now, and it is unbeleivable how much Lubbock dust is in China! From Beijing to Shanghai to Hong Kong, I have met Lubbock people, or in the most strange circumstances, someone who has a Lubbock connection.

Case in point, and the reason for this email:
I was sitting in a bar in Hong Kong
, and an Aussie came up to the bar already drunk and said "give me a fucking beer." Seeing as how he and me were the only white guys in the place, I decided to say, "What's up?" I asked him, in my stellar West Texas dialect, "Where ya' from?" He said "fucking Austrailia, and you?" I told him "Lubbock, Texas," and he said, "No shit! I love Buddy Holly, Terry Allen and The Flatlanders." I was naturally shocked and asked him how the hell he knew those guys.

He told me that he was a die hard Buddy Holly fan and was searching the Internet on his back ground and discovered this website called virtualubbock.com and got into the idea of the "Magic Dust." He told me that I was from a land of magic dust. Well, we of course got drunk together... No shit true story! Here is a good link for your site, I was missing the flatlands and found this: http://www.atmo.ttu.edu/dust.html

Brent Holbert

Subject: virtualubbock
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:06 EST
Hi Chris,
I've been looking at the site for about a year now and finally offering my congratulations. I grew up in Lubbock about the same time as you did (Cooper High School, in Woodrow). I worked at the Red Carpet Carwash on Quaker, between 19th and Brownfield Highway with a bunch of Tech guys. They really turned me on to Fat Dawgs and some other places. Hell, I'd been going to Stubb's for years and never realized how fortunate we were. There aren't many places that pulled talent like Stubb's. By the way, the second Stubb's location by the Depot was a truck stop my dad owned in the 60's and 70's.

I left town a few months after
Fat Dawgs became the Fast and Cool club. I think that was at least the temporary death of live music in Lubbock. I wandered the globe for a few years and finally settled in Tennessee. Every year on September 7th (Buddy's Birthday), I drive down Music Row with the windows down, the CD turned way up, Terry Allen singing Flatland Farmer as my symbolic protest of the crap they put on records these days. I told Lloyd Maines about that and he loved it. Please tell Terry that when you talk to him again.

Anyway, thanks for bringing back some great memories, and I'm looking forward to the book.

Gary Johnson

Subject: Another Hancock
Date: Thur, 3 Oct 2002 14:24 EST

Just wanted to send along my webpage....http://greyfax.home.texas.net.
I was just ahead of
Butch, Jimmie Dale, and Joe Ely....Got drafted in 1966, and that was my exit from Lubbock....via Viet Nam.....
My books went out of print around '93....but I have a new US publisher, Tor Books.....the first of the Tor editions will begin in July '03.....
One of the things that has kept me at it all these years, is my training in missions behind enemy lines that I got by growing up in that part of the country.....you can't keep us down.....and we don't go away.....
all best,
Niel Hancock

Subject: Texas girl groups: The Heartbeats; Ever heard of these girls?
http://www.cicadelic.com/">Click here:
[left side, Texas girl groups: "The Heartbeats"]
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 18:36:56 EST

The Heartbeats; Ever heard of these girls.?.....I grew up around the corner from them, they had a brother my age that I played baseball with. My brother and I
were good friends with all of them. We lived at 1318 26th and they lived around
the corner from us on Ave L, then they moved to 1313 26th, right across the street from us.

I am fascinated by your site. I live in Garland, the Lubbock of the DFW metroplex, work for Southwest Airlines, went to Tech, played in the Goin Band From Raiderland and hung out in the music scene...

Chris Cates

Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 2:59 EST
Subject: Alex Ross

I don't know an awful lot about Lubbock. I used to have a boyfriend who was
raised there, and I once went with him to visit his parents there for
Thanksgiving. We took a little bit of time to see the city and the
university. My ex-boyfriend is a graduate of Lubbock High and a former Tech
student. He told me that one of his old schoolmates was a guy named Nelson
Ross, now known as Alex Ross.

If you're not familiar with modern comic books, that name might not mean
anything to you, but having worked in the retail side of the comics
industry, I know that name belongs to one of the best comic book artists in
the world, in this age or any other. In fact, his art is more than just
comic book art, it's fine art in the truest sense.

Anyway, here's a URL to the official Alex Ross website, just in case y'all
want to check it out.


Just thought y'all might be interested.

That's all,

Subject: David Box and Virgil Johnson
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:19 EST

I'm amazed that your site lists such a luminary as Norman Odam but misses David Box and Virgil Johnson.

Virgil Johnson is a terrific guy; I visited him at his home here in Lubbock just last night. He retired a few years ago as principal of Dunbar High School; his son Patrick is presently assistant principal of the Jr. High in Copperas Cove (he was there visiting last night too.)

I founded and built KDAV three years ago and I got Virgil to come to work for me from the first day as the 9AM to noon DJ; in fact, his was the first show aired when we went on the air in September of 1998...just in time for the Buddy Holly festival right there in the street in front of the station. That was a great time; we had Bobby Vee for a live interview, as well as Little Eva and Tommy James.

What you apparently don't know is that Virgil Johnson had a very successful career
started as lead singer of The Velvets on Monument Records (now a subsidiary
of Sony) and a couple of his songs charted nationally. He made a responsible
decision to stay at home and raise his family instead of pursuing the road
to stardom...a great loss for music, but I'm quite sure he made the right
decision; he has a terrific family.

He is to this day extremely well known in doo-wop collector circles. And I'm
not exaggerating when I say he is one of the most genuinely nice guys that I
have ever known.

As to David Box, you can be forgiven for not knowing of him, as he was
killed in a plane crash in Houston before his career really got off the
ground. But what a talent! I had made it a goal when I ran the
radio station to see to it that everyone in Lubbock knew that Buddy Holly
was not the only talented musician from here, and played a lot of his stuff.

Visit http://www.hotshotdigital.com/tribute/DavidBox.html for more

Our own Bill Griggs is a big Buddy Holly collector and authority and has a pretty neat website.

Best regards,
Travis Martin

Subject: music box; "Some suggestions"
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:50 EST

i grew up in lubbock. have lived in nyc for the last 20 years.
musician for many years now own a production company - www.bbqproductions.com.

here are some things you might want to research...
charley's alley
oz (legendary stardust cowboy played there a million times! it was where main street saloon is now.)
the swinger
the music box
united states of america
t. nichol house band
at&t blues band
the boys
the techniques
the shantells - (eddie weir/glen bonds)
13th phoenix blues band (glen bonds)
the lox (jerry goolsby)
street theater (vince hopkins /glen bonds)
the blackouts (steve williamson )
the shucks
all the city owned teen centers in the mid to late 60's

these are some people and places off the top of my head. oh, there was actually
plenty to do in lubbock........
congrats on your site. it's great.
curtis cates

(NOTE: If anybody out there has any good stories about any of these suggestions, I'm all ears! Please e-mail me. - Chris Oglesby)

Subject: Tornado Jam Stories
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 17:24 EST

Enjoyed the stories and especially my photos from the Tornado Jam on your site. The photo of the Cotton Club is also one of mine from a black and white post card series that Sharon Ely and I put together on beautiful Lubbock. The photo of Ely on stage, he is singing his Snake Moan song. Not sure of the name as the guy in the front row holds up this giant snake, needless to say Joe loved it. What a day in the mud.

I had the pleasure of photographing the unbelievable graduation party at the Cotton Club. What a site with all those folks jammed together on stage, nice photos but it was a crowd.. It was a great party till the plug was pulled. Only in Lubbock.

Most of the Tornado Jam photos (negatives) are now in the Texas Tech University Museum collection.

Enjoyed the site.
Milton Adams, Photo Editor
Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 22:04 EST

is there anyway to have a tornado jam again? why don't people in lubbock try to get one going for the years following, it would be good income for lubbock, and also get lubbock on the map, they could get good bands in and let people of lubbock have a good time, if they had kept this thing going who knows what it would be like these days? it could one of the biggest jams in texas! why dont we get one going, it would be great!!


Subject: Greetings from the Great Lakes
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 7:25 EST

Dear Chris

I stumbled across VirtuaLubbock yesterday and got so engrossed in the interviews, I missed a 3 o'clock meeting!! I felt I should drop you a message and let you know.

I am a transplanted Texan, now living in Twinsburg, Ohio (southeast of Cleveland) for the last 11 years. I was born in Dallas and went to the University of Texas in the mid 70's. I went to High School (Bryan Adams) with Bruce Jaggers and later shared a house with him at UT. He and John Kenyon came up with this insane notion of moving to Lubbock and opening a bar to take advantage of the new liquor laws there allowing on site consumption. I think I gave em 6 months to survive!!

I graduated from UT in 1976 and worked in Houston and New York for a year until Bruce and John made me an offer to move to Lubbock and manage The Main Street Saloon. Now I was insane, especially if you asked my parents!!! This freed them up to get Fat Dawg's re-opened under their management.

Time does not allow to recall all the adventures we had in Lubbock, both in and out of the bars, but suffice it to say it was a time I will never forget. Joe Ely's unannounced gig at Main Street to celebrate the 5th anniversary of his first appearance stands out....and ask Bruce about our "Beer For A Year" promo...I still laugh thinking about it!! We crowned "Miss Main Street", had a recital by Willis Cooper, live music and a giant pie fight!! Real pies from Furr's!! I'm sure we either won the "Most Beers Consumed in 1 Night" OR "Biggest Mess Ever" award... maybe both!!

I don't get back to Texas much, but I do get to see Joe when he comes to town...he opened for the Dixie Chicks a week or so ago...there's another great Lubbock music story!! Lloyd's daughter a superstar!!

By the way, I have (and have had for 23 years) a card in my wallet given
to me by Stubbs promoting the Sunday night jams..."no loud talk, no bad talk"....

I wouldn't trade it for anything....

Roger Sikes
Highland Heights, Ohio

Subject: Re: Don Dykes (aka Eddy Beethoven)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:28 EST


Yes, I was talking about Graham Warwick in my last email. I think he told me he's living down here in the hill country somewhere, but I'm not sure. If you ever get to the big folk festival at Kerrville, he runs security there. I think it's security. He runs something. He's there every year and everybody there knows him and thinks well of him.

We played together with Don Dykes [a.k.a. Eddy Beethoven] for about six months or a year before I got religion and quit playing music for several years. I remember Don trying to talk me out of it, but how can you argue with God?

Graham was living with a very nice lady with the longest, prettiest blonde hair you ever saw. They lived in a little apartment there just a couple of blocks down from Don and Marilyn. I can't remember what street...somewhere in the student ghetto; seems like it was 14th or 15th street. I remember we were practicing one night at Don's house and it started snowing outside. While we were standing in the front yard admiring the falling snowflakes, my wedding ring just slid right off my skinny little finger and fell into the snow. We all poked around for a good while, but never did find it. The next spring Don was just messing around in the front yard and thought to
look for it, and sure enough he found it.

We had lots of fun making music together. Don is a very special man.

Well, so long.
Russell Clepper

Subject: Enjoyed Lubbock!
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 14:53:26 +0200

Hi my name is Bo Henriksson. I'm from Sweden Europe and i just wanted to say that i was visiting Lubbock TX in 1999 and enjoyed my visit very much. The most great thing was to travel around the city and see all historical places that have connections to Buddy Holly and his music. I have seen and met the members of Buddy's band, The Crickets here in Sweden three times, last time Sonny Curtis, Jerry Allison and Joe B Mauldin was here they were intervjued by a television channel. I was also intervjued because i was sitting backstage and talking with the band and pickin a little bit on Sonny's guitar. I am a guitar picker, not in a band but i have picked by myself for many years. But i have also played in a few bands. I'm born in 1971, it maybe seems that i am young to have been into the Rock and roll/Rockabilly music, but i started when i was about 6 years old and since that my music interests only have grown. I'm a big lover of Buddy Holly and his music. I think that B. Holly was a genius in making songs and music, and i am also thinkin´ of the other members in the Crickets in that way. Just wanted to write you some lines. Here in Sweden the music from Lubbock always will stay. God bless ya all.

[This poem was forwarded from the lovely & talented Miz Ayn of Levelland's Mean Woman Grill, one of virtualubbock's biggest supporters - c.o]

Subject: mean woman poem
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 :28 EST

(for the Mean Woman Grill)

I saw the best minds of Hockley County unzipped parked by the roadside,
racing packs of buggy college boys humming like the pavement,
watching working men with crusty boots sliding in on brittle legs
on Fridays with a pack of smokes and cash in hand,
Aged Hipsters starving for a first date fix, burning for the ancient heavenly
dragging themselves like sleepy snakes into the den,
who knew someone in school with salvaged chairs and table,
who slept with her in a two-room ghetto rental with a screen door like the
one in the back,
who swear the burgers taste just like the afternoon sunlight tasted there,
who drove all night once busted up for the love of a woman,
who drove 250 yards last Wednesday morning but lost the match to the yips, to
the stiffening joints, to a poor lie,
who slouch lop-headed late listening patiently for a word
for a halftime pep talk, for a song,
who fall between the burger and the brownie
back into love so merrily so puffy-hearted so long,
who fall between the burger and the brownie
never to be heard from again wrapped up in the unmade bed of 114,
who risk daily the track of tears the tracks of chili dripping from the chin,
who crawl inside lured by the scent of cheesburgers and estrogen.

Doug Tow

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